Comments on: Questions from Gurus Breakout http://visualworshiper.com/blog/2009/07/questions-from-gurus-breakout/ lights, media, and why the church needs both. Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:50:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Zach Pippin http://visualworshiper.com/blog/2009/07/questions-from-gurus-breakout/comment-page-1/#comment-4034 Zach Pippin Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:31:17 +0000 http://visualworshiper.com/blog/?p=427#comment-4034 Great insight into some things that have not really crossed my mind. Love the vision you have for blind ministry. Great insight into some things that have not really crossed my mind. Love the vision you have for blind ministry.

]]> By: Camron Ware - Visual Worshiper http://visualworshiper.com/blog/2009/07/questions-from-gurus-breakout/comment-page-1/#comment-4029 Camron Ware - Visual Worshiper Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:22:45 +0000 http://visualworshiper.com/blog/?p=427#comment-4029 @Kevin: About the BenQ; I personally do not like the brand; and I think you will be disappointed with the color output. If you need ultra-short; check out the Hitachi CP-A100 or Sanyo PLC-XL50. And about rear-projection; kind of...it MIGHT get you better contrast but you will still see ambient light reflecting off the FRONT of a rear projection screen as well. @Kevin:
About the BenQ; I personally do not like the brand; and I think you will be disappointed with the color output. If you need ultra-short; check out the Hitachi CP-A100 or Sanyo PLC-XL50.
And about rear-projection; kind of…it MIGHT get you better contrast but you will still see ambient light reflecting off the FRONT of a rear projection screen as well.

]]> By: Kevin http://visualworshiper.com/blog/2009/07/questions-from-gurus-breakout/comment-page-1/#comment-4028 Kevin Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:05:29 +0000 http://visualworshiper.com/blog/?p=427#comment-4028 Oooopps! My post should have started "Camron", not "Carmon". :-) Oooopps! My post should have started “Camron”, not “Carmon”. :-)

]]> By: Kevin http://visualworshiper.com/blog/2009/07/questions-from-gurus-breakout/comment-page-1/#comment-4027 Kevin Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:02:49 +0000 http://visualworshiper.com/blog/?p=427#comment-4027 Carmon... I would like to hear more about the advantages/disadvantages of rear-projection. BenQ has a 3,500-lumen projector coming out soon (MP776 ST, replacing the MP771) that will throw up a 150-inch diagonal image from under 2 meters. I understand that rear projection makes it possible to overcome a lot of ambient light issues that older churches have. Thanks for the insights! Carmon… I would like to hear more about the advantages/disadvantages of rear-projection. BenQ has a 3,500-lumen projector coming out soon (MP776 ST, replacing the MP771) that will throw up a 150-inch diagonal image from under 2 meters. I understand that rear projection makes it possible to overcome a lot of ambient light issues that older churches have. Thanks for the insights!

]]> By: Camron Ware - Visual Worshiper http://visualworshiper.com/blog/2009/07/questions-from-gurus-breakout/comment-page-1/#comment-4026 Camron Ware - Visual Worshiper Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:07:33 +0000 http://visualworshiper.com/blog/?p=427#comment-4026 @Dan Peters: Well put. About your second paragraph, in all the times I have ran Environmental Projection, I haven't heard of a story yet where someone didn't "get it" per se. Now, I might have projected something that was too busy at times; or whatnot, but the interesting (and almost crazy) thing is that everyone who I talk to about it and show it to, gets it. And I don't know why exactly! Now, it sounds like there are people just don't think technology has a place in worship? @Dan Burke: Thanks man! And yeah good question...as far as where we go from here as a VJ, man who knows...it so depends on the person running it. @Dan Peters: Well put.

About your second paragraph, in all the times I have ran Environmental Projection, I haven’t heard of a story yet where someone didn’t “get it” per se. Now, I might have projected something that was too busy at times; or whatnot, but the interesting (and almost crazy) thing is that everyone who I talk to about it and show it to, gets it. And I don’t know why exactly!
Now, it sounds like there are people just don’t think technology has a place in worship?

@Dan Burke: Thanks man! And yeah good question…as far as where we go from here as a VJ, man who knows…it so depends on the person running it.

]]> By: Dan Burke http://visualworshiper.com/blog/2009/07/questions-from-gurus-breakout/comment-page-1/#comment-4023 Dan Burke Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:03:46 +0000 http://visualworshiper.com/blog/?p=427#comment-4023 Hey guys. Cool session that @ Gurus. I shoulda' asked this question @ the conference, for some stupid reason I thought nobody would care,... but, what do you guys see in near/distant future with running full VJ apps for visual worship? Another words, ie, less clip oriented more real-time live-mixing visuals? My take is most VJs break down software that basically triggers and mixes clips(A>B) & the more exotic programs that do real-time effects, blend modes, real-time compositing, beat synced, a bazillion channels stacked, etc... @ a party/dance gig the visuals are more eye-candy, wildly subjective to the VJ and almost all non-scripted. I used to dj back in the day, so i get that mentality, but I wonder how you could compliment worship with a totally software approach? Maybe too much choice and subjectivity for the vj? along with the other production elements? Pre-produced approach(scripted)? NO knock on clips and opacity mixing!!! I do it now at my church in SSLiquid. Regardless I love the idea of Visual worship leader! I was searching for the right language. Thanks Stephen. As long as my worship leader doesn't feel like I'm squashing on her turf... :-) Also it must be a cool gig to use the tools outside the church and then be in process of how to integrate into church. Unique freedom. Blessings. You guys are cool. Much love. Hey guys.

Cool session that @ Gurus. I shoulda’ asked this question @ the conference, for some stupid reason I thought nobody would care,… but, what do you guys see in near/distant future with running full VJ apps for visual worship? Another words, ie, less clip oriented more real-time live-mixing visuals? My take is most VJs break down software that basically triggers and mixes clips(A>B) & the more exotic programs that do real-time effects, blend modes, real-time compositing, beat synced, a bazillion channels stacked, etc… @ a party/dance gig the visuals are more eye-candy, wildly subjective to the VJ and almost all non-scripted. I used to dj back in the day, so i get that mentality, but I wonder how you could compliment worship with a totally software approach? Maybe too much choice and subjectivity for the vj? along with the other production elements? Pre-produced approach(scripted)?

NO knock on clips and opacity mixing!!! I do it now at my church in SSLiquid.

Regardless I love the idea of Visual worship leader! I was searching for the right language. Thanks Stephen. As long as my worship leader doesn’t feel like I’m squashing on her turf… :-)

Also it must be a cool gig to use the tools outside the church and then be in process of how to integrate into church. Unique freedom.

Blessings. You guys are cool. Much love.

]]> By: Dan Peters http://visualworshiper.com/blog/2009/07/questions-from-gurus-breakout/comment-page-1/#comment-4021 Dan Peters Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:21:50 +0000 http://visualworshiper.com/blog/?p=427#comment-4021 Love what you said about the balance between worship being for believers vs. the lost. Making things "all about reaching the lost" sounds so RIGHT on the surface (and it is an awesome heart to have) but in reality it's only half the picture. Worship is a God-centered activity we'll be doing for eternity... even when there are no more lost people to reach. In my own experience, I've found that powerful worship encounters fuel my desire to reach the lost in my everyday life...so that they in turn can have that same experience of worshiping an amazing God. On a slightly different note... I would love to hear how other visual worshippers handle church members who simply don't get environmental projection. It seems that no matter how sensitive and tasteful we try to be, there always those who question the need for 'all that rock show lighting!' My flesh wants to tell them to just get over it, but I love The Church too, and I want architectural lighting to be edifying to as many people as possible. Love what you said about the balance between worship being for believers vs. the lost. Making things “all about reaching the lost” sounds so RIGHT on the surface (and it is an awesome heart to have) but in reality it’s only half the picture. Worship is a God-centered activity we’ll be doing for eternity… even when there are no more lost people to reach. In my own experience, I’ve found that powerful worship encounters fuel my desire to reach the lost in my everyday life…so that they in turn can have that same experience of worshiping an amazing God.

On a slightly different note… I would love to hear how other visual worshippers handle church members who simply don’t get environmental projection. It seems that no matter how sensitive and tasteful we try to be, there always those who question the need for ‘all that rock show lighting!’ My flesh wants to tell them to just get over it, but I love The Church too, and I want architectural lighting to be edifying to as many people as possible.

]]> By: Camron Ware - Visual Worshiper http://visualworshiper.com/blog/2009/07/questions-from-gurus-breakout/comment-page-1/#comment-4019 Camron Ware - Visual Worshiper Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:33:10 +0000 http://visualworshiper.com/blog/?p=427#comment-4019 @Chris Thanks man...it was awesome to finally meet and see your work. AWESOME. I can see you have a great heart and passion for lighting and visual worship. Hope to be able to work and worship with ya again soon! @Chris
Thanks man…it was awesome to finally meet and see your work. AWESOME. I can see you have a great heart and passion for lighting and visual worship. Hope to be able to work and worship with ya again soon!

]]> By: Chris Flood http://visualworshiper.com/blog/2009/07/questions-from-gurus-breakout/comment-page-1/#comment-4018 Chris Flood Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:06:11 +0000 http://visualworshiper.com/blog/?p=427#comment-4018 Awesome questions and awesome answers. I loved the breakout session you guys covered it all pretty much from gear all the way to why to do it and even why not to do it if its not gonna be right for your space.. Also i think its really cool how ya'll answered any extra questions on your blog that way we can follow up on anything. great job Camron and Stephen, have a great time at ECHO and hoping to see more question and answers posted from it since i won't be there in person. It was great to meet you both and I hope to be able to hang out with you again in the future. God bless, Chris Flood Awesome questions and awesome answers. I loved the breakout session you guys covered it all pretty much from gear all the way to why to do it and even why not to do it if its not gonna be right for your space.. Also i think its really cool how ya’ll answered any extra questions on your blog that way we can follow up on anything. great job Camron and Stephen, have a great time at ECHO and hoping to see more question and answers posted from it since i won’t be there in person. It was great to meet you both and I hope to be able to hang out with you again in the future.

God bless,
Chris Flood

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